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Dec 31, 2012 11:00pm PST
come with if comprehensive bill to reform some of the entitlement programs, to reduce government spending, to simplify the tax code, all of the things we heard them talk about our political leaders in washington over the last year and a half. that will be the next chance they have to do that to come together, if you will. to either fight or come together in the grand bargain style agreement. but joe biden tonight, telling democrats behind closed doors when he met with them here on capital hill, he expects a donnie brook when he expects those things to pass. >> we will keep an eye on everything that's happening with this and on the debt ceiling. thanks for coming on the phone late with me on new year's eve. i hope you had a good one. again, to repeat the breaking news here, the senate has voted to approve a bipartisan compromise on the fiscal cliff. we'll have more on that tomorrow. now, back to "hardball" previously in progress. >> wealthiest americans including to a george washington university poll. 60% say yes, they should. on the question of immigration, the country is not as
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 2:00pm PST
, destroying government is not good politics. you are engaged in negative politics. you are acting against the majority rule right now. you are trying to bring down the majority government by obstruction. people will remember. whot won tax relief. people who believe in government will remember. the people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare will remember. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who listens to the voter, who respects the voter, and who thumbs his nose at the voter and that ladies and gentlemen of the tea party right is you. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it willing tolling for you. leading off tonight josh green and chris frats of national journal. you don't have to be as clear as i, but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, guns again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? w
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 7:00am PST
ideas that the federal government should take seriously here? >> first of all, i don't know -- i would like to know, first of all how many schools there are in america. high schools, middle schools, preschools, private christian academies? the point is this is unfeasible. i'm not sure it's the right way to go to put an armed guard in every single school in america. who will pick up the taxpayer dla are on that? the counties, it is states? the locals the feds? who will do this? it's impractical. to the some mention i don't like guns in our schools. it's a nice political sound bite and they can use an old statement from bill clinton to say this, but i'm not sure it's a practical idea, frankly. >> first of all, when it comes to education, decisions really do need to be handled on a local level. that's how education decisions should be made. but at the same time i do support the idea of consideration putting an armed patrol officer. my sister in atlanta works at a receiving desk, and she's not prepared or trained for dealing with someone coming into the school. i would hate to think of my
MSNBC
Dec 29, 2012 12:00am PST
, make sure that they don't have a dramatic decline in their payments from the government, and certainly, that we're not going to do the sequester. we cannot tolerate, ordinary people can't tolerate these kinds of cuts in programs. >> absolutely. congresswoman jan schakowsky, thank you so very much. >> thank you. >> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen and share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. i want to know what you think. >>> coming up, this congress is on track to be the worst congress ever. that's right. "the huffington post" amanda turco and robert reich will join me. >>> coming up, more on tonight's breaking news of the fiscal cliff with former labor secretary, robert reich, and amanda turco of "the huffington post." >>> then, chicago reaches the tragic milestone of 500 homicides in 2012. reverend jesse jackson will join me to discuss curbing gun violence in our cities. we'll be right back. >>> so the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thinning. this is deja vu all over ag
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 5:00pm PST
essentially to take more money from the wealthy, from the top few percent, to pay for more government spending that doesn't help us with the deficit. and you hear members of congress, your republican colleagues who say, in my district, they don't want more spending. and that's how they see this money being spent. >> two things i would say. first of all, that is not the democratic position. no one that i know of is arguing that all of the increased revenue should go for increased spending nap simply isn't the case. by the way not having the sequester doesn't mean increased spending. it mean not having spending cuts. i voted against the idea of a sequester. i think it's not right way to do it. what the republicans want to do is spend more on defense. let me deal with this notion that republicans for cutting spending. you heard mitt romney criticize president obama because he's not spending enough on ships, which we don't need, and not staying long enough in the war zones. the republicans' view of spending is very particular one. secondly, as far as the american people are concerned, peo
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 5:00pm PST
are with him who are dependent upon them that believe they are victims, that believe government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. it's entitlement. and government should do it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and the president starts off with 48, 49. he starts off with a huge number. these are people who pay no income tax. 47% of americans pay no income tax. so low taxes doesn't connect. he'll be out there talking about tax cuts for rich. that's what they sell every four years. and so my job is not to worry about those few. i'll never convince them. what i have to do is convince the 5 to 10% in the center that are inters, that are voting one way or the other fending in some cases on emotion, whether they like the guy or not. >> does mitt romney really think that people in this country want to be on medicare, that they want to be poor, that they want to be disabled? that they want to have assistance? is that really the path that he thinks that americans want to take? an
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 3:00pm PST
other government agencies told their employees that they're not going to do anything with the sequester in january, because they're assuming congress will get its act together in january, february or so. so the idea that the markets are going to panic over this, you know, i think is a red herring. who knows? maybe they tank tomorrow. maybe they go through the roof. but i don't see that happening. though if it did that would drive things a little bit. >> do you have any sense they're feeling pressure from constituents at all? i would describe this as people are profoundly unhappy. >> that's a great point. congress' approval ratings are abysmal. but the pressure from the right for conservatives to cut a good deal, all this discussion about chained cpi is confusion. basically it means that republicans want to include entitlement reform as part of a deal. but why did they take that off the table? because when the debt ceiling comes next year, they can have a bigger fight about entitlement reform. so the big story today is that republicans are starting to resign themselves to the f
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 8:00pm PST
the doctors, make sure that they don't have a dramatic decline in their payments from the government, and certainly, that we're not going to do the sequester. we cannot tolerate, ordinary people can't tolerate these kinds of cuts in programs. >> absolutely. congresswoman jan schakowsky, thank you so very much. >> thank you. >> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen and share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. i want to know what you think. >>> coming up, this congress is on track to be the worst congress ever. that's right. "the huffington post" amanda turco and robert reich will join me. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete. of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪ ho ho ho ♪ green giant >>> coming up, more on tonight's break
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 9:00am PST
accordance with its core beliefs and principles that's not governing. that's lobbing hand grenades. if you are only stabbeding on principle to appear taller, then you appear smaller, and the gop is shrinking daily before our eyes. if leadership casting vision, calling all your people to rise up, and we just watched what happened with lan b and speaker boehner trying to call his people to rise up, and you say his leadership really not in question unless paul ryan really wants it. do you think that people having these types of perspectives, like a mark mckinnan, that doesn't really ring true coming into the new year for speaker boehner. >> look, the problem for republicans and for moderate republicans like mark mckinnan is most of the people in the house are not of the mark mckinnan stripe. these are people who are from districts where they've won with 60% of the vote or more. the majority of them. the majority of their constituents don't want them to compromise on things that they find important like taxes. why someone like mitt romney winds up getting pulled down because of the gop brand,
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 5:00pm PST
, make sure that they don't have a dramatic decline in their payments from the government, and certainly, that we're not going to do the sequester. we cannot tolerate, ordinary people can't tolerate these kinds of cuts in programs. >> absolutely. congresswoman jan schakowsky, thank you so very much. >> thank you. >> remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen and share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and on facebook. i want to know what you think. >>> coming up, this congress is on track to be the worst congress ever. that's right. "the huffington post" amanda turco and robert reich will join me. [ male announcer ] this is joe woods' first day of work. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 9:00pm PST
super majority congress would serve to, "embarrass the administration, destroy the energy of government, and substitute the pleasure, caprice or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junta to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority." good writer, that hamilton. but in recent years, the senate has been remade into a super majority constitution. disturb institution. you need 60 votes to get almost anything done. between 2009 and 2010, we had more filibusters than we had in the '50s, '60s, and '70s combined. and they're not filibusters like we think of them, where the senators go to the floor and debate an issue until they keel over from exhaustion. they're just obstruction. if you watch a filibuster today, it doesn't look like anything. it's the blue screen on c-span, the one with the classical music playing over it. you don't tune in to here an intense minority demand a great debate on the issue of the day. you tune in to hear a string quartet. senator jeff merkley, a democrat from oregon is trying to change that. he's got a proposal to force talk
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 4:00am PST
americans and a series of mandatory government spending cuts will kick in. hello, new year. hello, new recession. after two years of missing self-imposed deadline after self-imposed deadline, all eyes were on the senate over the weekend as the house's failure to even bring a plan to a vote left it up to the upper chamber to find a way out. vice president biden who had remained on the sidelines in this round of talks was even called in to help move things along. but as the saying goes, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. this morning, insanity continues as the clock ticks down and we have less than 17 hours to go. so joining us now to help us sort out this mess, we have former adviser to the bush administration and the romney campaign, dan senor. dan, will we go over the fiscal cliff? >> i'm afraid we will. i think it will get fixed right after right into the new year but i don't think it will get solved. >> something small, kicking the can down the road? >> correct. >> that same old thing. >> deal with the impasse until we get to t
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 12:00pm PST
in entertainment and gaming are possible in health care, education and all government services. >> if we can dig down into education a bit more because i think the disparity in our education system, the haves and have nots in terms of education is another major barrier in terms of keeping the american dream alive. our education system has basically worked the same from inception. the classroom that my daughter will be in looks like the one i was in. looks like the one my parents were in. it seems like that we may may be on the verge of a technological revolution. some example i will give you is these massive open online courses where high level institutions like harvard and mit are opening up courses to thousands of people around the world, typically free and typically no credit given. students are grading each other because there so many you could never hope to have a professor grade all the students's work. what sort of innovations do you see transforming the classroom in the way that education is delivered? >> the main thing about the internet-driven revolution and every sec
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 2:00am PST
an open letter wednesday, he warned the federal government may not be able to pay its bills once the country reaches its borrowing limit on december 31st, which is monday. that could broil financial markets and lead to a financial downgrade. he proposes a series of extraordinary measures to postpone the date that the u.s. would otherwise default on its legal obligations. geithner estimates his plan would free up about $200 billion, providing roughly two months of wiggle room. >>> well, last night on "the rachel maddow show," guest host ezra klein asked former clinton budget director alice rivlin on where we could see the fallout from the fiscal cliff. >> the real uncertainty i think is what the markets will look isn't in control of its own destiny because we're acting that way right now. now, if you're an investor, whether you're in some part of the united states or you're in some other part of the world, do you really want to buy american securities? do you want to invest in a country whose government isn't functioning? i don't think so. so, we could get a big market reaction, a
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 3:00am PST
embassies in areas where you essentially don't have governments that have a lot of capacity to protect those embassies. so we're doing a thorough review. not only will we implement all the recommendations made, but we'll try to do more than that. with respect to who carried it out, that's an ongoing investigation. the fbi has sent individuals to libya repeatedly. we have some very good leads, but this is not something that, you know, i'm going to be at liberty to talk about right now. >> in politics and the back-and-forth in this, do you feel like you let your friend susan rice hang out there to dry a little bit in. >> no. first of all, i think i was very clear throughout that susan has been an outstanding u.n. ambassador for the united states. she appeared on a number of television shows reporting what she and we understood to be the best information at the time. this was a politically motivated attack on her. i mean, of all the people on my national security team, she probably had the least to do with anything that happened in benghazi. why she was targeted individually for the kind
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 3:00am PST
of the federal government. congress debated this at length. they said if you're a -- a hobbyist or collector, a hunter in virginia wants to sell the gun to another hunter, they ought to be able to do it without being under the thumb of the federal government. >> if you want to check and screen more thoroughly for the mentally ill, why not screen more thoroughly for everybody and eliminate the fact that 40% can buy a weapon without any background check? >> we don't prosecute anybody under the gun laws right now. >> that's not responsive to the question, mr. lapierre. i hear you saying you can't do anything about high capacity ammunition magazines because it simply won't work yet you're proposing things that might not work. you're into the art of the possible because your standard is anything that has a chance of working, we ought to try except when it comes to guns or ammunition. don't you see that people see that as a complete dodge? >> nra supports what works. we funded the child safety program. we have accidents down to one-tenth of what they used to have. we have supported priso
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 6:00pm PST
crisis coming in march. the delayed sequester combined with government funding completely runs out. well could have a budget government shutdown showdown in march, and the debt ceiling all expiring basically in the same three to four-week period. it's going to make what has happened in the last 48 seem small and petty. >> so given what you just said, this deal looming tonight, perhaps even voting in the senate tonight, who wins? who loses? who is somewhere in between? >> look, i don't think anybody is winning here. i think that the white house and senate republicans feel as if they've dodged a political bullet, that it's not a complete victory, although the white house certainly feels as if they have republicans helping them raise tax. if you had told them you were going to get that a year ago, two years ago, heck, 20 years ago, they would have said what are you smoking? the fact of the matter is the white house feels like they're winning. simply they've got republicans helping them raise taxes on the wealthiest say 1.4% when all is said and done. but senate republicans feel like they've
MSNBC
Dec 30, 2012 4:00pm PST
embassies in areas where you essentially don't have governments that have a lot of capacity to protect those embassies. so we're doing a thorough review, not only will we implement all the recommendations that were made, but we'll try to do more than that. with respect to who carried it out, that's an ongoing investigation. the fbi has sent individuals to libya repeatedly. we have some very good leads. but this is not something that you know, i'm going to be at liberty to talk about right now. >> in politics, in the back and forth in this, do you feel like you let your friend, susan rice, hang out there to dry a little bit. >> no. first of all, i think i was very clear throughout, that susan has been an outstanding u.n. ambassador for the united states. she appeared on a number of television shows, reporting what she and we understood to be the best information at the time. this was a politically motivated attack on her. i mean of all the people in my national security team, she probably had the least to do with anything that happened in benghazi. why she was targeted individually for
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 1:00am PST
could come in more gradually if the government officials thought there was going to be a deal and they better hold off. the real uncertainty i think is what the markets will do. we look like a country that isn't in control of its own destiny, because we're acting that way right now. if you're an investor, whether you're in some part of the united states or you're in some other part of the world, do you really want to buy american securities? do you want to invest in a country whose government isn't functioning? i don't think so. we could get a big market reaction, drop in the stock market. that might scare people. >> how quickly do you -- >> but it would also be a bad thing. in itself, it would contribute to the possibility of having another recession. >> how quickly do you think we'll feel tremors from the debt ceiling now that the treasury is beginning to talk about avoiding it. >> i think we're seeing uncertainty about absolutely everything. it's cumulative, it's the debt ceiling, it's the fiscal cliff, it's what taxes are going to be, it's what spending is going to be, people
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 11:00am PST
not a reasonable way to govern. >> mike, how -- again, not to oversimplify this thing, but how did we get here? i think most folks following this fairly closely assumed that as is the case with a lot of things in washington, d.c. that at the 11th hour withere will ba deal that gets done. there are a lot of folks involved in the deal making saying, it won't happen this time. >> well, look. i think ari is right in one real respect which is they set this up, you know, more than a year ago as a way of trying to provide counter pressure to the political pressures that exist across the board on all of these lawmakers and these individual districts. they thought that the pressure, the scare tactic that they put on themselves of deep defense cuts on the one side and deep cuts to domestic programs on the other side forces everybody to the table. it clearly turned out that in the wake of the election we had, the pressures in their districts, the threat of being primaried especially on the republican side meant that folks aren't willing to move as quickly and put themselves in this bind. i've
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 7:00am PST
other government agencies. let's bring in "usa today" washington bureau chief susan page and "the washington post" congressional reporter ed o'keefe. good morning to both of you and happy new year. >> good morning. >> same to you. >> the senate returns in about an hour. how close are they? what are you hearing? >> you know, i think it is conceivable that we'll have a new year's eve miracle and there will be a deal but i think the safe bet is against it. for this to happen in the next 14 hours you need to have no senator object to a majority vote, you know, any senator can start to filibuster and force the vote total up to 60 to continue working on any kind of deal they reach. and then you need john boehner to agree and house republicans to agree to bring it up in the same version or very similar version and i think the hurdles that have prevented us from getting a deal for two years are still there. so, i mean, we'll see what the next 14 hours brings but i wouldn't be too optimistic. >> if the senate does manage to hammer out a deal what are the chances the house will go along? yo
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 11:00am PST
know what they want. they to take to us down. they wanted to close the government down if you remember in 2011. they didn't care. the president compromised. we finally came up with a deal. when we came to the debt ceiling. and beginning to pay our bills. and continuing to pay our bills. they didn't really care. i think that's what they were set out to do. to close the government. we are in a season where we need to act. >> you, congressman -- >> on something concrete. >> i didn't mean to interrupt you there but it sounds like you think it's a deliberate attempt to take the economy, the government. >> yeah. 55. the tea party members. not john boehner. john boehner's allowed himself to be captured by the fellows. he is above and beyond that. i think he's basically trying to do the right thing but he can't get a vote out of his own party for his own legislation. who does he turn to? the president of the united states? more worried about getting a proposition from the president to turn down then what proposition is he talking about? i think the president has been more than willing
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 1:00pm PST
instead of negotiating. it's gamesmanship. it's not cooperative governing but competitive dealmaking where each is merely trying to crush the other as daniel day-lewis' ruthless oil man did in "there will be blood." >> my sword reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. i drink your milkshake. i drink it up! >> who will drink the other's milkshake? will they learn how to talk to each other? will they drive off the cliff? oh, there's a cheap hollywood feel to this bhol narrative, this self-inflicted drama, and i hope no one ever, ever makes a movie about it. that does it for "the cycle." jonathan capehart is in the chair today? i feel like he's cheating on us. weren't you part of "the cycle", brother? >> i was, but it's a new day now. thanks guys. i'm jonathan capehart in for martin bashir on this december 31st, 2012. we're so very close to a deal that would stop all hell from breaking loose. oh, and happy new year. >> today it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. >> we're going cliffing. >> still no deal in sight.
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 2:00pm PST
ever and needs america's backing. but at the same time this israeli government is so spoiled and has shift sod far to the right it makes no effort to take u.s. interest into account. and i agree with that. when netanyahu moved and cut off any chance of a united west bank government, he basically took a step that was completely in the face of u.s. policy going back to george w. bush. >> that's true. i think one of the things to be keep in mind is this pre-nomination process seems to have gotten completely out of control. where congress has too much to say who the presumptive nominees that any president offers forth. over history only 20 cabinet nominees have been knocked back. seven have been rejected and 13 have withdrawn those names. seven of those have happened under the past three administrations. so i think there's something wrong with this whole process where a presumptive nominee is litigated in public and the -- >> how do you avoid this? how do you do it? >> he's got to make a decision. obama has either got to nominate him when he gets back to washington tomorrow or move o
MSNBC
Dec 31, 2012 9:00pm PST
the war. this time it will the be leld in tucson, arizona. this isn't the military or government coming up with this idea. this is just citizens. this organizers say they were inspired by what st. louis did. we've had three debates so far. the candidates have spent five hours arguing about medicare and social security and jobs. they are argued over the rules of the debate and big bird. there's been no talk about how we are treating veterans. lots of americans have been thinking about this generation of veterans that come home and need a job. ordinary americans are holding their own parades. welcome home love florida and tucson and new england coastal ports smith new hampshire. the pentagon, for reasons that i do not start to understand, still say they do not want new york city to hold a parade. new york city is where we've always done this. new york did throw one ticker tape parade for the new york giants and at their parade the football parade, we met the willis family. they brought a picture of her son and a huge giants fan. sergeant willis sent a message before the big game. >
MSNBC
Dec 27, 2012 10:00pm PST
$10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to exercise the right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballot. that is part of what is being revealed. >> i want to go to one other finding in this study about this. it is about the notion of people need guns for protection. >> there is no evidence that a gun in the home reduces the likelihood of severity during a break in. it is actually going to be usable in a way that will protect you. >> to the contrary. those same studies have shown, they are are more likely to go through if there is a gun in the house. what is more likely to happen is you are going to get shot. what happened is, they didn't kill the shooter. the shooter killed themselves. they were in able to get to it. >> they looked at th
MSNBC
Dec 28, 2012 3:00am PST
debt start to see i increase my interest because these guys can't run a government, you're looking at going toward a recession where we're playing politics in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think that people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today saying, we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that it will be all right a week or two or three or four. we start to go down that cliff, we don't know whether the momentum downward is going to be very, very damaging. >> yeah. >> maybe. >> you got na smirk on your face. >> maybe. i agree with the reverend that they're playing politics with livelihoods, because it is a huge risk. you're right about that. i disagree a little bit on the sort of dramatic, immediate impact of it. what we could get -- this is a possibility, and i'm trying to be optimistic because it's towards the end of the year. it's been crummy for a lot of people. we could get a deal the third week of
MSNBC
Jan 1, 2013 12:00am PST
government and want to have a voice? >> in a sense, i think it has already been accomplished, and given confidence. you have an overwhelming majority of the people in wisconsin saying we should have a recall vote. it almost at this point doesn't matter who wins the vote. it matters. but the point has been made. it was not just democrats or union members who voted for that. in order to get to the numbers they had if my recollection is correct as many people voted in that as voted for governor. the previous election. saying there should be a recall election. and that is people standing up. >> is this the template? >> it is, i just got finished talking to the volunteers here in new hampshire. and i said there is only one real antidote to what is expected for the hundreds of millions of dollars spent, the carpetbombing, the president is the guy he will go after because he is the leader, the boss. i said there is only one antidote, it is your next door neighbor knocking on your door saying i know these guys. let me tell you, ed, they're good men. that is not true. that is why we need more pe
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 4:00am PST
the worst of times, even in a constitutional crisis, government worked. people put the country ahead of their own party in the day-to-day workings of the capitol. >> but i think that should give you hope, if the president wins the election, and i believe he will, that something like that will happen next time. let's go back and look at what really happened in the '90s. so we had this -- you know, '94 was contentious, but things got done. and then the republicans won the congress. '95, hardly anything got done. we did get the budgets out on time. >> right. >> i mean, that's the only year we didn't get the budgets out on time. and so there were two government shutdowns. then public opinion shifted strongly against that. the leaders of your caucus and congress decided i'd probably win in '96, and we started working together because the shutdowns were an action-forcing event. this time, after the election, there will be less gridlock. if governor romney were to win, he'd just implement the agenda that he campaigned on. >> right. >> and if the president wins re-election, which is what i t
MSNBC
Dec 26, 2012 11:00am PST
raise them to support and fund our government. what does it say about the dysfunctionality? >> we will have to leave it there. happy holidays to you. joining me now on the phone, congressman gregory meeks. congressman, i just saw you downstairs in the lobby about two or three hours ago and you were waiting on a phone call to determine when you might have to go back to d.c. to hammer out fiscal cliff matters. have you gotten the call yet? >> we are still waiting. >> no word as to when you guys are going back? no sense of urgency? >> i think there is a sense of urgencey and we have to have a deal. i don't think that the speaker is going to bring back all the members unless he has a vote and that's what he is going to have a conference call. he's got to resolve his conference. democrats said they indicated to meet folks halfway. the government worked for his entire existence. i think the speaker is concerned about whether or not he can get reelected. he puts the bill on the floor without having all of his republicans on as i heard in your panel. the talking about i believe we can get 20 o
MSNBC
Dec 24, 2012 2:30am PST
government war planes attacked a bakery in a rebel held town killing more than 60 people, some of them children. it appears to be one of the deadliest aerial attacks in that country's nearly two-year long civil war. >>> u.s. senator michael crapo says he is deeply sorry for being arrested and charged with dui sunday. >>> in honolulu, president obama and first lady michelle obama attended a memorial service for senator inoyue. >>> comments from mitt romney's oldest son that has gotten people talking. it has been seven weeks since the election and there has been a steady stream of details coming from both campaigns. now comes the revolution from tagg romney that his father had no desire to run for president again, at least at first. we have more on that story from boston. >> i have just called president obama to congratulate him on his victory. >> reporter: as mitt romney, members of his campaign staff and top gop leaders continue assessing how he lost the election to a vulnerable incumbent president, the oldest son of the former massachusetts governor is raising eyebrows about his
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Dec 30, 2012 5:00am PST
on the wealthy, we're not talking about a huge sum of money here in terms of funding the government. but it seems like one of the issues, the democrats -- you see this as an opportunity to address inequality. >> over the last ten years, sort of income for the wealthiest people has gone up and stagnated for almost everyone else and raising taxes on the wealthy isn't something that necessarily will put a huge brick on that but you lift your foot off the gas a little bit and begin -- you can use the money to begin supporting programs like unemployment insurance, bolsters programs like the affordable care act which do end up putting money back into the pockets of ordinary americans. i think that, like i said earlier, the focus on deficit reduction is odd. unemployment is still in the 7.5 to 8% range. it's not going down particularly rapidly. and what i think we want right now is to focus all of our attention on lowering unemployment. ultimately full employment is the best deficit reduction program, it's the best way we have to reduce the amount of money the government spends. just peopl
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Dec 31, 2012 4:00pm PST
debate, here he is trying to remember the three government agencies he wants to get rid of. let's watch. >> and i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education and the -- what's the third one there? let's see. >> five. >> oh, five. okay, commerce, education and the, um, um -- >> epa? >> epa. there you go. >> seriously, is epa the one you're talking about? >> no, sir, no, sir. we're talking about the, um, agencies of government. epa needs to be rebuilt. >> but you can't name the third one? >> the third agency of government, i would do away with education, the commerce, and let's see. i can't. the third one, i can't. sorry. oops. >> he must have had a whole lot of help. >> you can't bring notes with you, they start scribbling the notes. >> up next, the right wing's most outrageous conspiracy theories are m coing up. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] what are happy kids made of? bikes and balloons, wholesome noodles on spoons. a kite, a breeze, a dunk of grilled cheese. catches and throws, and spaghet
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Dec 27, 2012 12:00am PST
which people who captured. what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work, we just have to do the right thing. >> six days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david
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Dec 24, 2012 10:00am PST
between christmas and new year's was 1996. that was during the government shutdown. this is really a rare occurrence for members of congress to have to come back and work out legislation that they went able to get done before the christmas holiday. >> the president is supposed to stay there for how long? >> well, of course, the white house not really giving us specifics about the president's travel plans at this point in time. the reality is i think the president is himself trying to figure out what he is going to do, but we do expect that he will cut his vacation short. you've heard the president himself during his press conference on friday say i will be seeing you all next week. i think that it is very likely that we will see president obama back in d.c. later on this week and also taking part in those negotiations. >> last but not least, do you have on flip-flops? >> no, not yet. >> i'm looking at wi kiki behind you, and i'm jealous. i have to say i think anybody that's seeing this all right now, we are all jealous. >> it is beautiful here. it's a great assignment. >> i know. hap
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Dec 27, 2012 6:00pm PST
govern. we have to have an adult conversation, getting people in the room who actually want to solve this problem. and i think it's very important to step back and see the fact that we have already -- there are three poorts parts of this deficit reduction stool. we've already in the past two years passed $1.6 trillion in spending cuts. we've passed over $700 billion in savings in medicare through reforms like cutting back on overpayments to insurance companies. the one piece of this puzzle that we've not been able to get any support for is making sure that the wealthiest among us help solve this problem by being willing to pay a little bit more to be part of the solution. so we have sent a bill to the house back in july, bipartisan bill that says what -- everybody says they don't want middle-class families to have their taxes go up, well, fine. why don't we start with something we can agree on, which is that? and just pass that. why doesn't the house just pass that? but as we know, the speaker couldn't even pass his own plan to say that up to a million dollars was exempt from tax cut
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Dec 31, 2012 6:00am PST
bad thing. they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts that president obama carried in 2012. given that, and we were talking with kelly about the fact that this has to come through the house at some point, that republicans still control. is there any reason for, politically speaking -- >> absolutely, right. >> -- not good of the country speaking, but politically speaking, is there any reason for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have d
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Jan 1, 2013 4:00am PST
house then was so much more open than it is today. people wanting government jobs would line up by the hundreds outside lincoln's office each with a story to tell, a reason his family needed a clerkship or job in a post office in order to survive. lincoln's secretary, john nicolnic nicolay and john hay told him he didn't have time for these ordinary people. you are wrong, he responded these are my public opinion baths. their serve to renew in me a clearer and more vivid image of that great popular assemblage of which i have sprung. >> you say that everyday, willie. >> and i wonder the great political courage it was for him to do then. how difficult was that fight for him in 1863, 1864? >> what was difficult about the fight he did not run on the abolitionist ticket. he would not have won then. he had an urge from his very young years that slavery was an atrocity. at the very beginning when the war started, he could not let those border states secede and go south. he pretty much put on political theater meaning he said what had to be said to calm the border states down. before the se
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Dec 24, 2012 5:00am PST
today. people wanting government jobs would line up by the hundreds outside lincoln's office, each with a story to tell, a reason his family needed a clerkship or a job in a post office in order to survive. lincoln's secretary told him he didn't have time for these ordinary people. you are wrong, he responded. that's pretty good. >> willie, you say that every day. >> one of my credos. >> i want to ask you about the political courage it took for abraham lincoln to take on this fight. it seems sitting in 2012 like an obvious thing to say, to free our foal people from that bondage. >> what was difficult is he did not run on the abolitionist ticket. he would not have been elected had he run as an abolitionist. he had an urge from his very young years that slavery was an atrocity. but from the beginning when the war first started, he could not let the border states secede and go south. because he couldn't let that happen, he pretty much put on a political theater, meaning he said what had to be said to calm the border states down and before the secession of the southern rebels, he tried
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Jan 1, 2013 3:00am PST
think the guns ultimately are it. >> you look at the fact we have allowed the federal government to be intrusive every time we get on the plane. we have allowed our 9-year-old children to be stopped and frisked. our grandmothers to be stopped and frisked. all these people that are our loved ones, every time we go through a tsa screening. we're willing to do that because of the attacks of 9/11 but we're not willing to tell a small niche of gun enthusiasts they can't carry around semi-automatic combat style weapons with these magazine clips that allow you to reel off 10, 15, 30 bullets per second that spin and rip young children to shreds. really? really? i don't think so. >>> coming up, our discussion of the top stories of the year continues. later, the most mem aborable moments from mitt romney's run for the white house for better or worse. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. aig? we said we were going to turn it around, and we did. woman: we're helping joplin, missouri, come back from a devastating tornado. man: and now we're helping the east coast recover from hurri
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Dec 26, 2012 7:00pm PST
members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote, and that strategy worked. >> that explanation got mitt romney attacked and condemned by the likes of bobby jindahl and other republicans. they're now trying a new approach. tag romney said this about his father. he wanted to be president less than anyone i knew in my entire life. he had no desire to run, says tag, who worked with his mother and to persuade his father to seek the presidency. if he could have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. too bad he never told newt gingrich that. joining me now, msnbc's joy reed. i'm on the verge of feeling sorry for them, trying to come up with these crazy reasons about why he lost. and now they want to pretend that this guy who lived his whole life in order to run for president didn't really want to run for president. >> yeah, i know, lawrence. there is nothing more failing than failing to win something and say, i didn't want to win, anyway. who wa
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Dec 26, 2012 6:00am PST
they did. >> they are very vocal. >> they are important when you have a system of government in the house where you have to pass things. the majority itself. the majority of the majority. that was pretty much in effect when democrats controlled for 40 years as well. there were rare occasions. president clinton massed nafta, the free trade agreement in 1993. the majority of republican votes for it and democrats against it. it's only 20 votes, but that is the difference between boehner getting what he wants and not. if he loses, he can only lose fewer than that in january. he needs a bill that commands a lot of democratic support. >> people say it will be one of the most powerful people. it will be more powerful because she has the upper hand and she knows it. she will have to deal with it at least 75 to 100 votes. >> and again the marks sustain this idea of okay, this new more moderate congress coming in and these voices will be put down to a degree or will we see dire financial implications off the bat? >> the lesser because even if they managed to harsh out the small deal that pres
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Dec 28, 2012 12:00pm PST
out the tax returns and won't happen until 2014. say the tax rates go up, the government is not going to automatically withhold more money from the paycheck and the tax rates can be in effect for most of the year. we hope they're not but congress could rescind them toward the end of the year and one thing to affect you is the payroll tax cut, two percentage points and spoebed to be temporary anyway. >> rick, one of the suggestions that you have, turn off the tv until congress reaches a deal. the media will find little else to talk about. the endless chatter creates the mistaken impression that the country is going down the drain. >> turn off all the other channels is what i meant. >> you leave the impression we're fearmongering and not giving important information that we need to have and are you per pet yuting the problem? >> trying to be a voice of reason. so for a bit of perspective, going in to this, most people who watch congress who are paying attention for months did not expect any kind of deal to happen in december. remember, this is a lame duck session and people who ha
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